Comments on: The Missional Korean-American Church, and East Coast Re-cap

By: Wayne

Wayne — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 23:10:06 +0000

@steph
I agree Steph – I often wonder about the at-times directionless small groups that we have – arranged around topics – some without a doubt very necessary – and yet the endless topical studies strike me as a bit aimless and influenced by the wind of trend.

So I like the idea of small group for the purpose of being the church – and the gooyuk has always done that well – and I believe can be even more affective w/ the 2nd gen.

Some would even go so far as to consider this cell church or house church – I wouldn’t go that far but just see it as a church that takes small groups seriously. Oh and I got your email – give me a few days to mull it over

By: steph

steph — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:01:33 +0000

This is really interesting and I appreciate you including these thoughts on your blog (I also hope you’re feeling better!) I’ve always referred to the “gooyuk” in concept because it is what my kore-am church in chicago practiced, but I didn’t know it was an actual philosophy with a name. I do see immense value in it, esp. it’s potential in our current church where there are not enough small groups to satisfy everyone (e.g. everyone is being too darn picky about all of the different small group themes). I’ve often posited to my husband that our old model back in Chicago would just make things “easier” and would call for a more integrated church.

By: Jay Johnson

Jay Johnson — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 01:29:12 +0000

Glad you’re back, thankful you all came through it all safe.

By: Wayne

Wayne — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:53:02 +0000

Hey Steve – I share your feelings.

The critique is that asian churchgoers often talk about being missional but really only desire to perpetuate ethnic enclaves. I’m willing to give people the benefit of the doubt that the right desires are there, but the pastors are often unable to equip them. In part I blame that on education.

For too many and too often theological orthodoxy doesn’t lead to orthopraxy. we have too many highly educated asian pastors with very little vision for social engagement – I wish a little more critical pedagogy were intro’d into our seminary curriculums.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:31:42 +0000

Which KAm church(es) did you visit, Maranatha Grace? I don’t see why any AA churches can’t be missional, as long as the church is driven by the purpose of embodying the missio dei and not veer toward satisfying the sociological needs of people which is typically what these churches do (from my own experience)