Comments on: Concrete Steps to Breaking the “Glass Ceiling”

By: Wayne

Wayne — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 05:59:28 +0000

Ah I forgot to add Jennie McLauren, who gave a stunning lecture today on bioethics. Twas very relevant for me.

By: Wayne

Wayne — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:42:40 +0000

@Christine Sine Hey Christine; thanx for your thoughts. I appreciate the work u guys r doing @ Mustard Seed

By: Wayne

Wayne — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:17:15 +0000

@elderj
Hey hey guys get a room
I don’t know Paul personally, but heard him speak once when I was a teen. I’ve skimmed some of his writings and themes – good stuff

By: elderj

elderj — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:46:31 +0000

@singingtigger I agree with singingtigger but then again, I'm biased.

By: singingtigger

singingtigger — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:33:17 +0000

just want to throw in a couple thoughts for the discussion…

1. what we define as “minority” is actually the majority for the rest of the world. and there are plenty of good scholars from india, southeast asian countries, and south america (i’m sure lots from africa as well). just that i dont know enough to give you names.

2. i think the same goes for women scholars. during my years studying in a seminary in singapore, i’ve come to know some women professors whom i would consider as quality scholars.

basically i think our view of “the Kingdom” and theological education is still very narrow and north-america focused. i wonder how that affects our education here in north america.

By: Christine Sine

Christine Sine — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:17:02 +0000

Wayne a great discussion. I think that there are some subtle ways that all of us can help with this.
First – expose students, faculty and our fellow followers of Christ to Christian world views that come from other cultures – I love to collect Christian art from other cultures and have found that using these images in powerpoints and presentations is a wonderful way to expose people to other ethnic views of the Biblical narrative. I also like to share prayers and stories from other cultures that make people aware of the fact that our ethnocentric worldview is not universally held – without me having to say anything
Make sure that we ourselves do not unconsciously present ethnocentric views as though they are the only view. I became aware of how easily this happens when someone pointed out to me a couple of years ago that my mission photos were all of white people helping black people. Unconsciously it carries the message that black people are the ones who need help and we white guys are the ones who give it.
Similarly if we always portray the people behind the pulpit or in the academic realm as white and male then unconsciously we send the message that this is what academia looks like.
Similarly we need to highlight the theological writings of those from other cultures – not always easy to find in the United States but there are still a number of organizations that already do this. The Overseas Ministry Study Center in New Haven Connecticut puts out a publication call the International Bulletin of Mission that draws from a rich array of theological voices. I would heartily recommend it as a place to start.
Blessings and do keep this conversation going.

By: elderj

elderj — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:49:00 +0000

@Wayne Wayne how do you know Paul? He's a buddy of mine

By: Wayne

Wayne — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:25:42 +0000

To add to the two Asian-American women scholars @ Princeton I'm gonna throw Paul Lim's name into the mix (from Vanderbilt), just to get a list goin here of "quality" ethnic minority and women scholars. I'll also put in Maxine Hancock and Sarah Williams from Regent. How about any up-and-coming scholars who are working thru the farm system who present a great deal of promise? Know of anyone? Names?

By: elderj

elderj — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:51:16 +0000

Might it be that there are fewer women and ethnic minorities are less interested in the academy as it currently stands? Not only that, those invoking the “quality” argument need to define what they mean.

As for concrete suggestions for participation I think hard questions must be asked about why they want to “diversify” and also what about the current culture of the academy is unattractive. I think we cannot simply assume that people “don’t want it” or that there aren’t enough “quality candidates.”

By: Wayne

Wayne — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:21:11 +0000

@daniel so splendid. I know they're out there; I've heard it said they're not. I just don't understand that. And I don't know how to judge the "quality" criterion, which seems to be the argument; "there just aren't enough quality minority and women scholars who can compete on the academic market today." Is that a valid presupposition? Well I'm not an educator so I can't claim to know what hiring's like.

By: daniel so

daniel so — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:13:44 +0000

Wayne — Great questions you’re raising here. Do you know Dr. Bo Karen Lee from Princeton Seminary (http://www3.ptsem.edu/Content.aspx?id=1939) or Dr. Eunny Patricia Lee, also at PTS (http://www3.ptsem.edu/Content.aspx?id=1940&menu_id=72)?

By: Wayne

Wayne — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:08:42 +0000

Wondering if the problem is that there are indeed very few minority / women academics in the hiring pool? I’ve heard it so…