Comments on: Wisdom From Tim Keller On Church Planting

By: Maybe I’ll Plant Again «

Maybe I’ll Plant Again « — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:51:42 +0000

[...] to generate core – if this is the case – it’s too late) Tim Keller had some great thoughts on [...]

By: Wayne Park

Wayne Park — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:58:01 +0000

I call it that too: Providence

and what Keller refers to as “the wave”. (which happens to sound so much like YWAM talk).

Hope you guys are well. We should catch up soon here…

By: JO

JO — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:42:51 +0000

Wayne, there’s an interesting book on success called Outliers, written by Malcolm Gladwell. It’s a secular book, certainly, but the views on the nature of outstanding success and how it comes about is generally applicable, I think.

One of the arguments he makes is that success-outstanding, earth-changing success-is largely based on good fortune, i.e., when a person was born, even down to month, in some respects, a person’s cultural heritage, and other factors. I would say it’s not “good fortune”, as such, but God’s grace and providence, but the analysis of the causes of success in this book generally hits the mark.

By: Wayne Park

Wayne Park — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:55:30 +0000

I heard recently that Christianity started in the middle east as an encounter. With Greeks it became philosophy. With Rome it became an institution. With Reformers it became doctrine. With America, it became enterprise.

So stinkin true.

Maybe the problem is we in America are too busy looking for the so-called “big waves” and running around trying to get ourselves struck by lightning. (I’m not exempt).

By: Ying Yee

Ying Yee — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:10:05 +0000

so so so true. thanks for the blog. Great reminder

By: JO

JO — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:41:05 +0000

I wouldn’t call it luck, but grace. Even the pillars of success from the Bible, such as Joseph and Daniel, credited their success, their wisdom, to God. Of course, there are things we can and should do to help pave the way for success, but those things pretty much boil down to obedience to God.

‘Obedience to God’ can always be ‘unpacked’ to show exactly what it means, but that’s basically all that we’re called to do. It is up to God then to grant success and to us to ascribe credit to Him.